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    Pit Master Dainoji's Avatar
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    A sound idea, implemented in a stupid way. Whats the point of teams when your part of all of them? The good solutions would`ve been to take away the teams entirerly.
    Yeah, stupid if stupid means not done exactly as you would like it to be done. And no, taking them away instead of doing it like you want would not be the "good solution". It would've been your preferred solution. I happen to think the patron god teams are still very cool.

    thats easy, the once cool idea of team competition has been reduced to a silly random bgp generator. I and I guess most others will have a few glads getting points and the bulk will not. I`m sorry but I cant feel anything but indifference to the whole team concept atm.
    I'm not even sure what this means "silly random bgp generator". With similar numbers and a good mix of glads on each team it is possible each week could see a different champ and tighter competition.
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    It would've been your preferred solution. I happen to think the patron god teams are still very cool.
    Nope thats not right at all, my preferred solution would`ve been the way it was in the first patron god season, and yes patron god teams are still a good idea. A good idea dont go bad, just because its not used well.

    With similar numbers and a good mix of glads on each team it is possible each week could see a different champ and tighter competition.
    yea sure that could be true, but I for one wont care who wins since I anyway will have some glads with bonus points. And I think that will be true for most of the managers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oedi View Post
    yea sure that could be true, but I for one wont care who wins since I anyway will have some glads with bonus points. And I think that will be true for most of the managers.
    Yup that's the problem I have with this seasons setup. Let's face it though, the last 3 weeks are the only weeks with any sort of real impact on the bgp scores as those are 800, 1600 and 3200 points and unlike the first patron god season where a patron god had to keep ranking high in order to get higher bonus bgp each time it simply increases per week now. Hence my only motivation of even wanting to reach the top spot with a patron god for me would be in those last weeks of the season.

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    my preferred solution would`ve been the way it was in the first patron god season
    Your preferred solution isn't practical. You manage 20 or more glads in blood gods and during that season many complained at the lack of variety in their opponents so that idea has already been tried. A clan system would be awesome, and Nate said he'd like to implement one eventually. I sympathize with Nate because I've been in charge of activities before that required grouping people into teams for competition and you never make everyone happy and it almost always ends up unfair to someone.

    If memory serves me right we've tried:

    3 teams where players' glads were on the same team and there were complaints.

    5 teams where stables' glads were on the same team and there were complaints.

    5 teams where stables' glads are not on the same team and there are complaints.

    There seems to be a pattern here.

    I agree it would be fun to have team play like clans or guilds but until that day try and enjoy the toys you have right now instead of thinking about the ones you don't. The patron god teams add a little spice like salt to a stew. It isn't meant to be the main course. Blood Gods is still very much a 1v1 environment.
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    Your preferred solution isn't practical.
    I know that, and thats why I think the best solution for the time being is to take patron gods out, and re introduce it at a time when we can make our own teams. Teams where the members will make a real effort doing their best as a team.
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    I agree with Oedi and Prinny, having your glads spread over all patron gods removes all interest to the team system as far as I am concerned.

    The system in last season was not perfect but made more sense and I would prefer that we go back to it next season, especially now that the domination of Sotc's team seems less absolute as more and more glads in the other teams get well-equipped in orange items...
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    The previous season's system will be better only it the "winner takes all" thing is revised. The last time, from 8 weeks of fighting the leading team was challenged only once, no fun if your gladiators are assigned to some of the loser gods and have no chance to win something. Something like this will be better:

    Week 1 end: 1st team takes 100% BGP
    Week 1 end: 2nd team takes 50% BGP
    Week 1 end: 3rd team takes 25% BGP

    Week 2 end: if the first team has maintained leadership since the last week, it takes 100% + X BGP.
    Week 2 end: 2nd team takes 50% BGP
    Week 2 end: 3rd team takes 25% BGP

    ... and so on.

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    Good point, Kreegan, the "winner takes all" really advantages the teams that are already at the top and makes even more difficult for younger teams to catch on..

    A simpler system that the one you propose would be to give 50 % of the week BGP bonus to first team, 30% to second team and 20% to third team, so that all teams still have a reachable goal to fight for !

    Anyway, I sympathize with Nate, balancing Seasons is really a headache and whatever his future choices about it there will always be some trainers unhappy.

    PS : Btw, congrats again Sotc, I almost forgot !
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    Or we can simply try everything, then vote on which we prefer best in practice.

    So far, last season's setting was fine for me and better than all the previous versions, we'll see if this season's setting feels any better at the end.

    And congrats to Sotc.

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    So far this is the closest competition I've seen in the team standings, I like this.
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