some numbers from the blood games

[oedi]

Blood games #1
I think it was 62 gladiators participateing in the first blood games. Think i wrote down some information on it somewhere on the forum, but cant find it atm.Anyone remember where it was posted?
the winner was Laharl(war), with runner ups Eruption(war) and Ormgar(theatrics)

Bloodgames #2
Its 46 gladiators participateing. 18 Rage, 16 War and 12 Theatrics.
Crow = 10, Team Kaos = 7(inactive), CainDeSolis = 3, Ziggler = 3, 7 managers got 2 each, 9 managers got 1 each.

Half way through the fights it is 5 Rage, 3 War, and 2 Theatrics in the top 10. #1 War, # 2 Theatrics, #3 Theatrics.
Its been 32 kills so far. Rage got 13 kills, War got 13 kills, Theatrics got 6 kills. Rage has been killed 20 times, War has been killed 10 times and Theatrics has been killed twice.

[oedi]

I reduced my participation from 9 to 1 singel gladiator. It was a strategic decision, trying to get more rage gladiators in the top. And that they would be able to give Laharl and Eruption som losses that i was unable to give them myself in the first blood games. Its been a partial success i think since Eruption atm is out of top 10, but Laharl has so far been able to beat all the ragers i think.
If i had entered all my available theatrics(7 more), they wouldve been the most represented speciality in the tourney:)
Im not sure yet but i think ill enter more gladiators for the next tournament, i should have 10 qualified gladiators for the next tournament.

[nova1491]

What is the min lvl to get into the Blood Games?

[oedi]

theres no minimum level requirement to participate.
The only requirement is to be ranked in the top 100 gladiators in the game.
If the cut had been made today, that wouldve been all gladiators ranked above legends #31

[oedi]

Looks to me that ragers die to requently to compete in this current format. Look at poor CainDeSolis, with a w/l of 10-5 hes ranked all the way down at #22 with his 3 deaths.
I think a slight change of format would do the tournament good.

[nova1491]

okie. So what lvl are the average person at Legendary #31 and above?

I'm only at Jugg

[oedi]

The youngest gladiators close to the cut off is around 200 fights, but those gladiators are exeptional.
I can give you some examples from my own gladiators. I run 4 teams, and each of those teams got 1 gladiator close to the cut off.

subjectseven of the subjects 255-191-21 lvl 42 ranked as legend #17
Azmael of MOTU 271-170-4 lvl 41 ranked as legend #3
Both these gladiators fight for stables i dont buy trophies for.

Fastblades of Briteron by 179-82-19 lvl 32 ranked as legend #8
Toddler of the Theatrics 191-82-17 lvl 33 ranked as legend #24
These 2 gladiators fight for stables with most stable upgrades and i usually equip them with the best gear available.

[Apoca1ypse]

i noticed that a lot of the glads who didnt perform very well last games didnt enter again. you need to keep in mind that in blood games you're trying to compete against the top gladiators, or at the very least climb the tournament rankings to fight them. imo there's no point if you're not going to be competitive against the top glads, hence i entered 1 less glad.

I too would like to see a change to points calculation. deaths are crippling. 1 fight sets you back 3 points... and seems to happen to ragers more too imo

I'd much rather see more points awarded for kills, than you can lose for a death. IMO it seems much more in theme for blood games to shower someone in glory for decapitating their foe and not really care either way for the loser. loss is a loss, but winning in a flashy way, yeah i'll remember that :3

[Cynaidh]

Damn, I might actually be able to squeak in my first glad into the blood games next time then, if that's the cut off....

My guy:

Belgarad
Level 24
Ab Gold
126 - 52 - 14
70.8%

is currently 26 in Legends.... well if i can keep him there, he is having a bit of a tough time of it lately everyone in this bracket seems to have a lot of levels on him

[Apoca1ypse]

yeah, you'll shoot up past the inactive players with a good record then BAM lots of inactive high levels, or active mid/high level glads that have a 400hp advantage

[Cynaidh]

Ya me having 700 hit points and fighting people with 1400 is just... not right :) I think that is the highest i have seen so far is about double my guys current hit points.

[Apoca1ypse]

the +250hp reward for 100/100 skills is a little absurd imo, and i'm not the biggest fan of the achievement bonuses as they warp the game imo, but oh well.... at least nate made it cheap to use

[nova1491]

Damn, I might actually be able to squeak in my first glad into the blood games next time then, if that's the cut off....

My guy:

Belgarad
Level 24
Ab Gold
126 - 52 - 14
70.8%

is currently 26 in Legends.... well if i can keep him there, he is having a bit of a tough time of it lately everyone in this bracket seems to have a lot of levels on him

Wow, omg you're super underlvl but a super overachiever. ^^ pro kill rate.
I bet your stable is awesome.

[Cynaidh]

They try :) Ab Gold and Ba Gold are both my stables, just got my second glad into legends:

Legend (58th)
Smak
Level 24
Ba Gold
108 - 34 - 10
76.1%

I actually consider this guy to be a better glad then the first, will be interesting to see if I can get either of them above the cut off before the next bloodgames, Belgarad already fell from 26 to 36 over night...

[nova1491]

Omg man, you must have one hell of a good luck or one heck of a glad ^^

[Dainoji]

I like how deaths really hurt a gladiator's ranking in the tournament, it represents the ultimate failure. It makes gladiators at the top susceptible of falling from grace as Lahral did. At one point he had twice the number of points as everyone else and after a few losses and a death he's more or less back with the pack which has kept things interesting and more gladiators in the running. Of course if the next format simply made kills worth more points we would get a similar effect. Given the point stricture is listed out I imagine it will change from time to time.

[Apoca1ypse]

yeah that'd be nice

[Cynaidh]

ROFL, well my guy made the cut off and what the hell I am going to be the lowest level entry at level 28 but why not! Personally I would like Caine or Sliver for my first round match up just to see you hit me for double my hit points in the first shot! :) Has anyone ever not won a single bloodgames fight? I am probably headed for that honor.... errr wait dishonor!

Ended up putting one in from each of my teams... figured i can have a mini tourney of my own at the bottom of the ranks!!!

[oedi]

Blood games III is here with 27 managers entering 78 gladiators.
We have 3 major players: Frede entering 13, Oedi entering 11, and Crow with 10(from 2 teams, nice). 5 managers with 3, 10 managers with 2, and 9 with 1 each.

Most popular speciality goes to RAGE with more than half the field. 41 rage gladiators entered. 21 Theatrics, and last War with only 16 gladiators.

[Arkham]

Sounds like a rough round for WAR gladiators. Abom gets regularly trounced by rage. Eternal (my rage) came in the top 10 last games!


Blood games III is here with 27 managers entering 78 gladiators.
We have 3 major players: Frede entering 13, Oedi entering 11, and Crow with 10(from 2 teams, nice). 5 managers with 3, 10 managers with 2, and 9 with 1 each.

Most popular speciality goes to RAGE with more than half the field. 41 rage gladiators entered. 21 Theatrics, and last War with only 16 gladiators.

[Warmonger]

Were there more total invites this time or just more free invites? My warrior Gypsy got a free invite despite being ranked in the 70s somewhere at the time.

[Dainoji]

Yeah, top 152 got invites and top 76 got in for free.

[Cynaidh]

Nice so is this Blood Games 3 The Rage-fest then? ;)

[Apoca1ypse]

i benched 3 of my glads. only kharn and rarg are competing.

i'm not looking forward to facing lots of theatric glads which will be a guessing game for strat..... but atleast there are ragers for to take a club to and hope for a kill :P

[oystein]

Interesting read.

I benched and SOLD my best and oldest gladiator Brutus when these new Blood Games started. Entered Conan, who is RAGE only. He seems to be pretty good at the higher level, and much better than Brutus who was WAR.

Also interesting is the amount of time and money I spent on Brutus - just to now sell him off. It felt like the right thing to do though... yeah, I am a tough master :-p

[oedi]

Blood games IV just started with 80 gladiators entered by 28 managers. Frede 13, Oedi 12, Crow 8, Apoca1ypse 5, CainDeSolis 4, 3 with 3, 9 with 2 and 11 with 1.

45 rages: 25 of those DW, and 20 use a 2H.
20 theatrics: 5 usually use sword&shiled, 15 usually DW.
15 war: 3 usually use sword&shield, 6 usually DW, 3 use polearm, and 3 use 2H.

[oedi]

I really thought ragers would do better in the current format. It really did look like that until the end of last months tourney. In the last few days most of the rage gladiators was pushed down the ranks and left only 2 in the top 10.
Final top 10 from BG III looks like this: 5 war, (1 pole arm, 1 2H, 3 DW) 3 theatrics, (1 S&S, 2 dW) 2 rage(2 DW)
Ragers did in fact do alot better in the last tourney where they claimed 5 of the top 10, and 1 top 5 spot for 2h rage Sliver.

One explaination could be that this time 2 managers claimed 7 of the top 10 slots and they mainly play war(crow) and theatrics(oedi).

[Warmonger]

Losing points for deaths certainly isn't helping the rages with their propensity for biting the dust. My young rage died a whopping 6 times (I think probably the most in the tourney hehe), though still finished decently over .500 I think.

[oedi]

Blood games V

total gladiatores: 72

breakdown of turn 1

rage: 42 W/L 20-22-0-2

war: 11 W/L 9-2-1-0

theatrics: 19 W/L 7-12-1-0

human: 44, rage 26, war 6, theatrics 12. W/L 19-25-1-2

elaar: 2, rage 1, war 1. W/L 1-1-0

spite: 5, rage 1, theatrics 4. W/L 1-4-0

dunder: 7, rage 3, war 1, theatrics 3. W/L 5-2-1-0

urk: 4, rage 4. W/L 4-0-0-0

sniveler: 2, rage 2. W/L 1-1-0-0

trug: 8, rage 4, war 3, theatric 1 W/L 5-3-0-0

[oedi]

Well ive been out counting again, this time weapons.

We have 42 rages in the tournament.

15 are dual wielding blades: 9 with a heavy/medium blade with off hand medium/light blade, 5 with medium blade with an off hand medium/light blade, 1 with light blade and off hand light blade.

15 are useing a 2 handed weapon: 2 uses a flamberge/greatsword, 3 uses a great axe, 4 uses battle flail, 4 useing chain & ball, 2 uses giant club.

11 are useing axe & mace: 2 are dual wielding axes, 3 are dual wielding maces, 3 uses mace with off hand axe, 2 useing axe with offhand mace, 1 uses a single mace.

1 is useing other: dual wielding blade with an off hand mace.

We have 11 war in the tournament

4 are dual wielding blades: 3 uses bastard sword & bastard sword, 1 uses medium blade with an offhand medium blade.

5 are useing a 2 handed weapon: 2 flamberge/greatsword, 2 uses battleflail, 1 is useing a great axe.

2 are useing polearms: 1 halberd, 1 spear

We have 19 theatrics in the tournament

7 are dual wielding blades: 5 uses bastard sword with an off hand other blade, 1 use gladius with off hand bastard sword, 1 uses bastard sword & bastard sword.

2 uses blade and shield: 1 gladius and tower shield, 1 uses bastard sword and heater shield.

4 are dual wielding exotic weapons: 3 with a light weapon and an off hand heavy weapon, 1 with a heavy weapon and a light off hand weapon.

2 are useing exotic with shield: 1 goes heavy weapon and tower shiled, 1 uses light weapon and tower shield.

3 are useing axe&mace: 3 dual wields axes.

1 uses mace and tower shield.

[oedi]

Its been some minor changes to the races of our participants.
We got 2 more trugs and 1 more sniveler. 1 less of these races, human, spite and dunder. So the numbers look like this now after round 4.

human: 43. W/L 78-96-3-2

elaar: 2. W/L 4-4-0-0

spite: 4. W/L 11-6-0-0

dunder: 6. W/L 15-10-1-0

urk: 4. W/L 10-6-0-0

sniveler: 3. W/L 5-5-0-2

trug: 10. W/L 21-17-0-0

[oedi]

blood games VI are upon us with these participants.

Sadly few that chose to enter this months fray, only 66 gladiators, and of those are at least 4 totally inactive. Entering the tournament with all broken gear, priest valon, maria, theodore henry, and leadmaster. Next month id like to see an opt in button instead of opt out. Might be even fewer participants, but then we would know that everyone were active at the start of the tournament.

33 rage: 16 human, 5 urk, 4 sniveler, 4 dunder, 3 trug, 1 elaar.

20 theatrics: 10 human, 5 spite, 2 dunder, 2 trug, 1 sniveler.

13 war: 6 human, 3 dunder, 3 trug, 1 spite

[HipsterD]

Got my first invite a day or two ago. What could be better than getting beat up by the best in the game at almost no cost! Think I'll wait:-)

[oedi]

Blood games VII
64 gladiators
28 rage, 13 human, 6 trug, 5 urk, 4 dunder
18 war, 9 human, 4 dunder, 3 trug, 2 spite
18 theatrics, 8 human, 6 spite, 2 sniveler, 2 dunder.
no one playing elaar, and im the only one playing sniveler.

20 of the 22 primus managers entered. Were missing Apoca1ypse and Izcer. In addition Crow pulled Sliver, Echo and Commander. Cynaidh pulled Smak and Huse. Oedi pulled sbjectthriteen. Thats a total of 6 2h rage pulled from the blood games.

2 non Primus gladiators entered. McLachlan and Shadowplay each entered 1 gladiator.

[Cynaidh]

Thats a total of 6 2h rage pulled from the blood games.

Shows how sad 2h rage is compared to 2h warrior which has plenty in the blood games and what 3 in the top 10 primus.

[Narol]

I also entered a non-Primus gladiator, my young 2H-War Tygros Rex...

What team(s) does Izcer manage, please Oedi ?

[oedi]

What team(s) does Izcer manage, please Oedi

He introduced himself in the `who are who in primus` thread as the manager of Red Leaf.

[Narol]

oops thanks Oedi, I remember now... * Narol plugs himself more memory cards *

[Dainoji]

I've never understood the logic of pulling your glads from the blood games if you got a free invite unless you want to sell them and don't say cost of healing since most managers in Primus are sitting on piles of gold. If it's a "strategic" decision because you don't want your own glads knocking each other out, that's just even worse and cowardly. I think a place like the Great Realm would likely punish managers for pulling glads from the Blood Games except to sell them.

This nonsense about 2H Rage glads not having a chance is BS, Incredulous D was running out in front for a good part of the last games and is off to a nice start again. If any area of this game is favorable to 2H Rage it is the Blood Games because you know your opponent before hand and can make adjustments as needed.

[Cynaidh]

Ziggler has shown us Incredulous D is one of the best 2 handed rage out there right now, unfortunately all of mine where made differently then him with very low presence scores as i didn't know Overwhelming Presence was going to be such a key skill, the damage numbers he is throwing with 193 str 157 pres are amazing and he will get a lot of kills from the huge presence score, but for me my guys with just the 180-190 str and 80 presence and more skill trains then Incredulous D are doing 2/3 the damage he is doing (if that) and that's a huge difference. I have new ones coming up with higher presence scores, and my current ones are just hanging around until a slave comes to replace them.

Incredulous D has shown us that there is an very exact way to set up a 2 handed rage to give them a chance, unfortunately i used presence as a dump stat for my rages and went with high strength and chi, so my mistake, they are all on the chopping block waiting to be replaced.

[Dainoji]

In your case Cynaidh it makes sense since you want to sell them, and maybe that is why others have pulled them. Other than that reason I can't think of any reason why you would deny one of your glads from possibly being a Black Horse and finding themselves in the top 10...for FREE!

[crow]

Yes, every glad in any blood games that I have ever pulled is with the intent of selling just in case that great prospect shows up in the market. And yes I would have sold Summit, Delta, and Sliver last month.

[CaineDeSoulis]

I run 1 stable. so i put all of my people in lol. if suddenly the new school's are released next month i'll be kicking my self. but meh i guess i can just start a new test stable. first 5 in that new stable will be 3 single specialty glads and 2 hybrids. ^_^

[Prinny]

I run 1 stable. so i put all of my people in lol. if suddenly the new school's are released next month i'll be kicking my self. but meh i guess i can just start a new test stable. first 5 in that new stable will be 3 single specialty glads and 2 hybrids. ^_^

That's what Grimoire and Fan Service are for Caine xD
Those 2 mostly run Theatrics to build up the stable for when it's released, than again it has some new glads now that I might consider to be keepers lol

Will probably go with 1-2 of the old schools and 3 of each of the new schools for both of them. Depends on how I like the new school and if the old school ones do well or not lol

On a side note, There haven't been any updates about it for some time so my guts tell me Conquests will be released before the new schools will lol