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wuhugm
12-04-2014, 06:19 AM
What happened to a Gladiator whose stable has memberships to Skull's Gym and The Blood Academy who then advances to Blood Gods? Still gets double everything or not?

Kreegan
12-04-2014, 09:52 PM
There are no tokens in Blood Gods so the Blood Academy becomes redundant.

wuhugm
12-05-2014, 06:18 AM
It doesn't seem that Blood Gods is of any fun...

Dainoji
12-05-2014, 11:27 AM
Blood Gods is one of the best and most fun areas of this game in my opinion. It is truly where the game comes into its own and really begins. If you find you don't like it, just retire your glad. The new change Nate made to retirement makes that easy now.

wuhugm
12-05-2014, 05:53 PM
Hmm.... is postponing entry to Blood Gods still possible? I wanna max my skills and stats first, coz all 5 of my glads are in Primus now, even hogging the top 3 spots, if the advancement is automated now then I'm fucked :(

Avengelyn
12-06-2014, 06:35 AM
Hmm.... is postponing entry to Blood Gods still possible? I wanna max my skills and stats first, coz all 5 of my glads are in Primus now, even hogging the top 3 spots, if the advancement is automated now then I'm fucked :(

Wuhugm - From what I can tell Blood Gods induction is automated and takes place every tuesday. It seems to be based on ranking points alone, between 340 - 350k ish i believe, so if you want to stay in primus, get below that number.

As far as BG's being entertaining, well, let me just reiterate that BG warriors shouldn't count towards your max number of warriors. If you have 5 warrior slots and 1 gets inducted to BG's, you get another slot and a HOL slave. That method would engage all managers in all parts of the game at all times, and i know it would produce more cash for Nate as well.

Avengelyn, Manager of Lethal Formula

Kreegan
12-06-2014, 10:02 PM
Besides, Blood Gods isn't the grinder that it used to be, so neither your finances, nor your guys' performance are going to suffer very much.

wuhugm
12-07-2014, 01:46 AM
Deliberately losing is not my style, so I guess I just have to take it like a man :D wish me luck~

Avengelyn
12-07-2014, 08:31 PM
Besides, Blood Gods isn't the grinder that it used to be, so neither your finances, nor your guys' performance are going to suffer very much.

Well I'm going to have to disagree on the grind thing. At level 51 Raw Material is getting ~3k experience per day, and assuming things stay linear, it will take in excess of 60 days per level, or over 200 days till 55. In contrast my Primus warriors gain ~9k Experience per day, and will therefore level 3 times as fast. Hell i bet a new warrior created today would get to 55 faster than Raw Material if it managed to avoid Blood Gods.

I havent thrown any fights by the way, at least not yet. I just make sure i dont exclusively challenge warriors I can beat every time. That said, i'll do what i have to to keep my warriors competitive in the things that matter to me, at least till Nate lays the hammer down.

Avengelyn, Manager of Lethal Formula

Apoca1ypse
12-07-2014, 08:47 PM
If you have a gladiator with a complete build, gear will not play as much of a difference as you may think. I've noticed that the difference between lvl 50 legendaries and lvl 55 legendaries is pretty minor. In some cases, I've found that lvl 50 items have the best stats available for a build.

The 200hp difference between a lvl 50 and a lvl 55 gladiator is also a factor, but long story short, a lvl 50 gladiator with a full build will still be competitive. some glads in the overall top 15 are lvl 53 or lower. Unholy Guardian and Duke Nukem come to mind.


I think the biggest issue with Blood Gods is that you get training points at a much slower pace. If you want to change your build or are yet to finish it, it's a long long road. If you are lucky enough to get promoted to Blood Gods in the last week of the season, then you score 200 training points, but that's about the best case scenario you have.

oedi
12-07-2014, 09:54 PM
The 200hp difference between a lvl 50 and a lvl 55 gladiator is also a factor, but long story short, a lvl 50 gladiator with a full build will still be competitive. some glads in the overall top 15 are lvl 53 or lower. Unholy Guardian and Duke Nukem come to mind.
If by competetive you mean almost good enough to win, I agree, but I dont like almost good enough so atm Im just waiting for my guys to get to lvl 55, wich will take them another couple of months. Until then the only thing ill do is to log in to keep them active. When they get to lvl 55 the plan is to buy them new gear, update strats and turn on achievments again.
I also expect my new guy currently in primus to get to lvl 55 before any of my old glads, and if hes getting to close to to BG induction Ill equip him with greys to keep him out.
Unless you plan to retire I see no reason at all to get `promoted` to Blood gods before lvl 55.

Kreegan
12-07-2014, 10:24 PM
If you have a gladiator with a complete build, gear will not play as much of a difference as you may think. I've noticed that the difference between lvl 50 legendaries and lvl 55 legendaries is pretty minor. In some cases, I've found that lvl 50 items have the best stats available for a build.

The 200hp difference between a lvl 50 and a lvl 55 gladiator is also a factor, but long story short, a lvl 50 gladiator with a full build will still be competitive. some glads in the overall top 15 are lvl 53 or lower. Unholy Guardian and Duke Nukem come to mind.
Sometimes I wonder if some of you people play a different game.

The difference in HP between lvl 50 and lvl 55 is more like 500 points and it's quite noticeable. Also, I don't agree that gear is "not all that important", it certainly matters a lot if you will fight with a weapon dealing 300-500 damage at lvl 50 and its bigger brother at lvl 55 which deals 500-800 damage. Same for armour. I don't see any top performers with obsolete gear in Blood Gods except the tanks and their case is special. Unholy Guardian is lvl 54, with lvl 53 gear, which is near top quality. The big difference is between lvl 50 and lvl 51 items, after that the gap becomes smaller.

@Avengelyn, by grinder I mean a VERY unfair competition for all new entries in Blood Gods and very intense fighting for pretty much all participants. Leveling was faster but the expenses were also much higher, especially during those few months when the repair of legendaries cost 70-80% more than the maximum amount of gold you could earn for a win. 5-6 serious injuries per gladiator per day were something normal, even with a Doctor. Now it's much more relaxed (and I really like it that way), albeit slower. The fight pairing scheme allows less developed and thus less competitive fighters to face similar opponents rather than going against the entire population of the bracket, which means that you are no longer forced to lose for months until you build and equip your fighter. Of course, you will still need to wait for a while before being able to compete for the top spots but that has always been the case, even in Primus times. The access to legendary gear is now more generous so with decent performance, you can come up with a competitive gladiator in a few months.

Adoede
12-08-2014, 04:15 AM
I love all the new changes, but I agree that they have created some minor issues with leveling glads in blood gods and re-training skills to try out new builds. I also have some glads in the lower ranks that I'm purposefully keeping there to level faster.

Easy fix: triple the experience points and training points awarded in blood gods for arena fights and tavern fights. Then there's little reason to stay in Primus.

Apoca1ypse
12-08-2014, 04:34 AM
When I PM'd Nate about it a while ago, he said he had some plans to alleviate the issues with reduce experience gain in Blood Gods, so he is aware of it.

He is but 1 man, so be patient :)

Rokchewer
12-08-2014, 06:47 AM
When I PM'd Nate about it a while ago, he said he had some plans to alleviate the issues with reduce experience gain in Blood Gods, so he is aware of it.

He is but 1 man, so be patient :)

That is good to hear. Like many I am trying to avoid getting any of my guys to blood gods to quickly. I have guys who arent even level 50 yet who are bumping up near top of primus...sigh. Seventy or so days per level 50+ in blood gods seems a bit slow. At least the new blood gods format is good and you wont have to eat hundreds of losses while trying to catch up, nice job on that Nate

-Rokchewer, Manager of Team Triangle, Soulmaidens and Blakwater