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Sand Gnomes
12-24-2012, 08:42 AM
Just unlocked my armoury 3/6 and got a new 2H weapon - Great Axe. But when I went into battle, I didn't have an axe, I had some kind of flail, which was just silly, because my style was chosen as Slash.

So yeah, what the actual fuck?

Sand Gnomes
12-24-2012, 08:47 AM
Gonna test it out again, in case this is not a constant bug.

Sand Gnomes
12-24-2012, 08:51 AM
Nope, apparently was a one time thing.

Dainoji
12-24-2012, 08:52 AM
Are you fighting in the black market pit fights? If so click on the question mark and you'll see why you didn't have an axe. You probably didn't have all the same armor either. ;)

Sand Gnomes
12-24-2012, 08:55 AM
That son of a bitch! How does anyone even get to 50-0 with random weps, that just don't go with their fighting style?

Dainoji
12-24-2012, 09:01 AM
Since you are running a 2H glad you'll want to set their style to bash for now while fighting in the pit fights. All 2H weapons can bash, even a great sword. Think of it like swinging a huge 6' long metal baseball bat that happens to have an edge on it. After your glad levels up more he'll unlock some new fighting styles like berserk and kill shot that work with all weapon types and you don't have to worry as much.

Sand Gnomes
12-24-2012, 09:03 AM
So wait, are you saying that I won't get a penalty for bashing with a 2H sword or are you saying that the penalty is so small, I shouldn't even bother at such a low level?

Dainoji
12-24-2012, 09:09 AM
I'm saying 2H swords can bash. If you raise a giant sword over your head and swing it down you are really bashing with it, not slashing. A slash is trying to run as much of the blade across something whereas a bash is just trying to smash into something with as much speed and strength resulting in a crunch. Things are a lot deeper than that but for now that should get you moving in the right direction.

Sand Gnomes
12-24-2012, 09:16 AM
Even if you raise a 2H sword over your head, I'd see it as slashing, as you could just slash whatever tissue you're aiming at into two pieces, rather than bashing, which would end up in you smushing whatever you're hitting. Maybe if you turn your sword weirdly sideways. Or not, just the way I see it, I guess if you got your facts from a dictionary, then there's no point in arguing with that.

Anyway, thanks for the info!

Apoca1ypse
12-24-2012, 06:02 PM
if you bash with a great sword, think of it as trying to cleave your opponent. there is no slashing action to it but it will still get results.

oedi
12-25-2012, 01:59 AM
All 2H weapons can bash, even a great sword.
this is not true, 2h swords slash or lunge, bash is unorthodox.

Dainoji
12-25-2012, 02:18 AM
this is not true, 2h swords slash or lunge, bash is unorthodox.

I guarantee you can bash with a 2H sword. Ever swung a baseball bat or chopped wood with an axe? Now imagine doing the same thing with a 2H sword. That would be a bashing motion. The fact there is a blade on the weapon might mean it will cut the object being hit but it is still a bashing motion. Now imagine cutting a steak with a knife, that would be slashing, much of your momentum is going perpendicular to the object in this case the steak instead of into to the target like a bash. I won't argue the point though, instead I'll direct you here. ;)

http://xkcd.com/386/

oedi
12-25-2012, 02:28 AM
:D im sure if you get your hands on a 2h sword you could bash with it, in game though if you give one of your gladiators a 2h sword and tell him to bash with it the crowd will laugh at your glad as he uses his weapon in an unorthodox manner.

Dainoji
12-25-2012, 02:36 AM
:D im sure if you get your hands on a 2h sword you could bash with it, in game though if you give one of your gladiators a 2h sword and tell him to bash with it the crowd will laugh at your glad as he uses his weapon in an unorthodox manner.

Nate! Fix this! ;)

Sand Gnomes
12-25-2012, 03:45 AM
I guess the option to Chop would fit nicely, then.

Lunarion199
12-25-2012, 03:47 AM
This is what I found:

Bash (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bash?s=t)
Lunge (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lunge?s=t)
Slash (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slash?s=t)

Crush (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crush?s=t)
Smash (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/smash?s=t)


It seems bash is a blow intended for deformation/ crushing into pieces; while slashing cuts in a 'sweeping stroke' and lunging 'pierces' using a forward strike. As such, bashing with a sword seems inappropriate imo.

Apoca1ypse
12-25-2012, 04:13 PM
:D im sure if you get your hands on a 2h sword you could bash with it, in game though if you give one of your gladiators a 2h sword and tell him to bash with it the crowd will laugh at your glad as he uses his weapon in an unorthodox manner.

It's true that a 2H sword works better when slashing, but bash still lets it work well enough.

For the purposes of pit fights where you get a random weapon and dont have zerk, i'd be running bash as my strat

Alba Kebab
12-25-2012, 08:15 PM
Yes, use bash for random 2h weapon, but use slash when you have a 2h sword equipped.